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Can't think of anything else other than the solution that was originally proposed by jaynick, maybe you could ask the question on the backend, is this is an animation and if author states yes then on front end a button or hypertext would appear "this is an animation, click to view" giving the visitor / user the ability to view source svg in the browser opening in a different tab this could also have the added beneift of advising users which images which are static, and which are animated. or alternatively make the image preview on the download page a hyperlink to the source svg file that opens up in another tab, irrespective of it being an animation or static image.

There is also the possibility to create GIF animation from the raw PNG slides of each animation but this could be more trouble than it's worth.

J4P4N, you seem to be under the impression the mild censorship is a direct assault on your creativity, or the availability of your work to the general public, neither of these things are true you are free to draw / design / upload / comment "when the comment feature is enabled" as you wish, however the site has a duty of care towards others so if the content contravene site rules then it will be marked as NSFW / NSFC. This is a rule that applies to everyone not just you. It does not however mean your work will be removed or completely inaccessible, it just means people will have to log in to view, and if they haven't done so already, they will need to change their NSFW settings removing the restriction.

You seem to think I am green to the creation of clipart, and not as educated as you in such matters, so couldn't possibly understand or relate to what you are saying, which is just self-righteous claptrap, admittedly I may not be as prolific or gifted creator as yourself but I know my way around inkscape & gimp and can accomplish most tasks I put my mind to with ease, so does this not make me an artist also, and what qualifies as an artist, must you have to have public recognition, show of my work in public galleries / only use adobe illustrator to be a true artist, the point is how can you draw the line between the distinction of you the artist and me the user, without you even knowing what my capabilities / qualifications / experience are.

I've mentioned this previously "You don't make me or many others feel welcome" I remind you again, you do not speak for all users and in my opinion this is another example of you trying to discredit me as best you can. Neither myself or the Devs have ever said or insinuated  "you guys suck and I know what is best" but at the end of the day the dev's pay the site hosting costs, and donate their own time and artwork to developing this project so have the final say on what is  / is not acceptable, you can either choose to make use of this great resource and accept their relaxed censorship or not, it's entirely up to yourself.

My role on this site is voluntarily to moderate:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate and to assist other users that run into difficulty, there is nothing to be gained for either of us by continuing on with this conversation as it's counter productive. Personally I think your making a mountain out of a mole hill to be honest, but I accept if this site does not live up to your expectations, then I respect your decision to return to OCAL who hopefully do a better job at accommodating your needs.

As mentioned your welcome back anytime!

I should add, just like OCAL NSFW is now on by default for new users:https://twitter.com/openclipart/status/1216536164737306624
but this can be turned off within your dashboard if you are effected by it. This post discusses it further:https://forum.freesvg.org/viewtopic.php?pid=504#p504

Any constructive discussion relevant to this feature is welcome.

Well I certainly can't comment on OCAL censorship tactics as I was never a registered user, the only thing I noticed was that 33 page limit, and what I am definitely aware of when tagging is, some of these images I don't ever recall seeing before, especially provocative ones.

As for the forum, well they never had one, and I doubt you would ever see one there. The intention of this forum was first and foremost to offer guidance / assistance / to keep people informed / to gather feedback, but it seems to have attracted other nefarious uses, which sometimes extends to people inciting discontent or reciting anti establishment rhetoric.

It seems instead of just accepting some minor censorship is needed some feel compelled to fight it, without considering 97% of the visitors to the site don't appear to have an issue with the moderation as if they did, we would be seeing much stronger opposition to it via the forum, so we have to assume the approach the site is adopting is the correct one for the majority.

All I can say is If OCAL is such a unrestricted utopia and your on the fence now because your are seeing they are making some progress to return, then there isn't anything we can do or say to change your mind.

Although we are disappointed to see some contributors leave us, we anticipated it may happen if OCAL ever returned.

I think the phrase used was religious biggots, and there wasn't anything demonstrated by that user at the time that indicated either to be true, so a judgement call was taken to censor your post, albeit moderately. Either way, I feel the message or point you were attempting to convey was still achieved.

The point I am trying to make is if you upset somebody through general discourse then thats fair game, but I don't think anyone needs to resort to name calling just because someone's belief's or value's don't allign with our own, from the interaction I have had with you, I think you are better than that.

Whilst I have your attn do you have any ideas on how the site could show appreciation to contributors like yourself or give you more exposure or feedback on your donated time / images / efforts, If so please post as a new feature request in the usual manor.

I admittantly editted one line in one of your posts in the past, because it was anti establishment and may have caused offense to educators who use the site. It was either that or deletion of the entire comment as this is a responsibility I have been entrusted with and share with the devs. The only other time I have edited a posts is to add a comment, instead of adding a new message so it does not get overlooked, but this is no longer done, as you objected to this.

The censorship of images tags / descriptions is another matter, there have been images which you have added in the past, where the description was automatically censored as the word Nazi appeared in the block list being used, there is a lot to be said for and against the use of blocklist, but my opinion is, if it's not going to work properly "as words that are blocked are still searchable, and it doesn't work for descriptions" then it might as well be removed. The site currently uses a generic blocklist, which we were hoping to modify (add/remove words) over time, which can be done introduced much quicker than creating a list from scratch.

I think the problem is, people expect the site to function precisely like OCAL but this is not possible, they have 15+ years head start and many code contributions and librarians to help out with moderation and censrship over the years, but even with this, their site still had problems, which may explain why search results were restricted to 33 pages.

This site serves as a replacement but admittantly lacks some of the features and number of contributors at present, features are slowing being added but in order for the site to attract contributors, it has to appeal to people coming from all walks of life, so cannot be seen to allign its views with any group, so therefore some censorship is needed.

Unfortunately it's a double edged sword, the developers spend a lot of time tagging old images from the OCAL collection, and as a result don't have much time at their disposal to focus on developing, plus they have other responsibility like creating artwork themselves that they donate here and on public domain vectors, plus tending to their other sites, more users to help with tagging and self moderation so that automated blocklist are not needed would free them up to focus on development challenges.

Good to hear Vedran / Boris, & happy new year to you both and your families, I am sure your comments will serve as reassurance to any passing visitors, so they know freesvg.org is very much alive and kicking.

Looking forward to seeing some of the planned features in the coming year.

Those that objected to this idea don't seem to be around anymore and from what I can see may have decide to jump ship back to OCAL as that site claims to be making a comeback. There is nothing wrong with this, and is to be expected, but I think in their absence to further enhance this site, and recruit new taggers to replace old, then you may wish to reconsider this as a viable idea.

Happy new year!!

Thanks for looking into this mvolz, coincidentally, I approached the guy who is mentioned on github, as he used to frequent the OCAL twitter page when it first went down, and asked him for advice on creating a plugin, but he ignored my tweet. I know that lazur who I think is a inkscape forum moderator has made multiple attempts to engage with OCAL and only just recently made contact, https://t.co/r0zjueXmRc?amp=1 I think part of their discussion was to revive OCAL and reintergrate the collection into Inkscape.

There seems to be a unspoken / unwritten bond between inkscape and OCAL probably due to one of the founders to OCAL being involved in sodipodi, the godfather of what would become inkscape. This makes it very difficult for this project to develop a plugin that would be part of inkscape core, so it may just end up being a 3rd party plugins, that inkscape users would be free to install.

Of course if OCAL do return, and the core plugin get's fixed. Then we may have to evaluate whether it is even necessary for freesvg to offer a plugin, as it would be pointless spending significant time developing a plugin that no one will use.

It was a good idea though, if OCAL weren't making attempts to come back, it would have definately been worth pursuing.

not sure whether the word Nazi should be censored, I realise according to wikipedia it originated as an insult, but I think in this context it is being used to describe a specific ideology, I can see it may cause offence so purhaps the word nazi should be reinstated but this particular image only available to registered users. anyone else have a opinion on the subject?

Also may I add, I don't think it' is a problem to add / remove the occasional block word, this would take significantly less effort than creating a new blocklist from scratch, but at the same time a blocklist that only effects tags and title, is pretty much useless, as anything can be added to description or comment in the future.