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Vedran did say he could create a list of these soft deletes but I think the guys might be swamped at the moment, with all the other stuff we are throwing at them. Personally I just see a potential for misuse of the delete and upload function within the current lists, if it's going to be available to all users. We are OK at the moment, as those currently contributing have proved themselves to be trustworthy. But if one bad apple were to join, they could wreak havok even if the files aren't really deleted. Any list should probably include user name who deleted, reason for delete, and ability to reinstate if needed, and also a way to knock off old images from the list after a prolonged period of time, otherwise we could find ourselves scrolling page after page.

https://www.1001freedownloads.com/free-vectors/

I have a tendancy to over think things, I figured the site should include some versioning capabilities to enable both users and sitedevs to keep track of what is happening with images, but I realise this would be a big ask for a site so early in it's development. To be honest it may not even be necessary now that I know files are just marked for deletion and aren't physically deleted.

I am not sure how this will work for yourself, when you upload a substitute file to your personal collection, one would assume it will just replace the file you have there already, but if files aren't actually being deleted or replaced then I have no idea, hopefully the web developers can advise further.

purhaps but we don't want it looking too cluttered, I would knock up a screenshot to invision what it may look like but I am on my way out the door. Also, I don't think they should be in your face, purhaps mutted in colour so they don't distract from the overal message and site branding, If I get a chance to work on it later I will drop you a mail with my concept so you understand what I mean.

There is also: https://freesvg.org/sad-panda
https://freesvg.org/peterm-sad-cat

I am good with anything you guys agree on, I suppose if we ever got bored of the image it can always be swaped out with one of the others suggested.

Agree with liftarn though, page should include logo, link back to home page or back button may be better so people don't lose track of what they are searching for, and I suppose a report this page button or some other mecahnism to notify yourselves of the page problem, so that it can be fixed.

Google has a dinosaur for no connection, pixabay have sad white faced male, so not a bad idea plus injects a bit humour into an otherwise boring page, please provide link to image, and it can be taken into consideration.

As liftarn has pointed out derivitive artwork could be a problem, for any object such as clothing I would say as long as the work is not a pixel perfect copy, and makes no claim to be associated with a copywrited material then I can't see there being a problem, but the repurposing of characters, trademarks or fonts without permission which are clearly protected by interlectual property laws could be a problem, if anyone knows a copywrite lawyer who can weigh in on the subject it woud be great to hear from them on this matter.

Tracing or vectorising of images should only be permitted for images that have been clearly placed in the public domain, or are no longer subject to copywrite, evidence should be provided in the description such as linking to the orginal, or referencing the original works.

As you might imagine, it would be extremely difficult to self regulate which is why there is a mechanism to report none CC0 images so that copywrite holders or anyone else for that matter, can issue take down requests.

I figured OCAL must have had some form of censorship under the hood, as I couldn't recall seeing anything of that nature. Also I do know their search results were limited to 33 pages for some reason, so we were never really served the entire collection when searching something anyway, purhaps this is how their censorship worked by demoting those kind of images so they didn't appear in the results.

Back to the discussion at hand, I have no influence over acceptible forms of nudity on the site, I am giving my personal oppinion which could be contridicated by the web devs if they are not in agreement, they after all have the final say so. Further more, I've also struggled with the question what is acceptable myself, as there are provocative silhouettes on the site, which liftarn believed should be acceptable and gave a valid point, so when screening those images, I now tend to ignore them.

It's a fine line we must walk, there are many situations when an image contains nudity but is not of a sexual nature, but may still need censored, I could give examples but it's not necessary as we all have an imagination.

I value your contribution to this discussion, and trust me I am trying to see both sides of the coin, but we do need to get something pinned down in writting officially if only to avoid it being a subject that is reignited again in the future, as it's a controversial topic.

On the plus side, the images however controversial they may be are still accessible, just to registered users.

But this isn't any of those things, It's a clipart site, where the website developers, not me, decide what is acceptable. It's just like facebook or twitter imposing censorship to protect minors, except this sites censorship is far less severe on this site. I don't know this for certain but I am pretty sure OCAL had censorship, in place also, I asked them this, but they never answered, the only reason it's such a hot topic is we are seeing these images now, even though we probably weren't aware these existed until now. I used OCAL extensively and dont recall ever seeing images of this nature, but then again I wasn't looking for them so could be mistaken.

Where I live UK societal norms dictate that men who are topless is acceptable, but women who are topless isn't. I don't know at what stage within the evolution of social behavour this became a norm, I only know that right now, in the present day in th UK this is how it is, I realise it  may be different for others, or more relaxed in some placed. Artwork found in museums or on churches are relics from the past, created in a time when social norms were very different. Of course if you take a child to church or gallery then they are going to see images of this nature, but their exposure to these images is very low and inconsequential, what you are suggesting is the opposite.

At the end of the day it is not the sites responsibility to teach anatomy, sex education, or define what is or isn't nude art, that is the responsibility of parents, guardians or teachers when they feel the time is right to educate children on those matters.

I think I already suggested something similar, see below. The devs have confirmed they are working on it.

https://forum.freesvg.org/viewtopic.php?pid=296#p296

Both Japan and Norway are developed countries instead of knit picking and analyzing every word said, you should instead focus on the point I was trying to make, somethings are offensive to others, this might be a cultural difference or just someone sensitivity to a certain subject. Lets go back to whale hunting, I personally have a problem with developed countries like Norway and Japan carrying out whale hunting, as I find the practice unnecessary, that's not to say I feel the same way about an eskimo doing it who depends on the practice for survival, either way I would see an image posted to a site depicting this as grotesque and insensitive and if I had my way I would report it. Fortunately, as I understand it we are only talking about censoring nude images. You have said nude images with artistic value should not be censored but where do we draw the line? it couldbe considered xart is art, but some might say it's porn.