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#1 Re: Website Issues and Support » Report / appeal text censorship issues here » 2019-12-19 09:26:51

gay and poop deleted. checked other words in the list, all seem to be profane enough to remain censored. If anyone sees anything else please report here.

#4 Re: Website Issues and Support » [FEATURE] site guidelines & code of conduct 2b agreed upon and publish » 2019-12-03 15:20:18

rob_s wrote:

I think the point Boris is trying to make is originality would be preferred along with remixes of other CC0 content, as there is less chance or copywrite infringement, along with some of the other things mentioned by others, but blatent copying of Logo's, Characters such as cartoons / hentai / game characters and fonts to a degree think Cocacola / disney should be avoided.

This is exactly the point. There is no need to include trademarks, copyrighted images clip art etc as it always comes down to different interpretations between different lawyers. Considering the vast pool of public domain resources on the Web I think there is no need to even challenge any legality of any trademarks or copyrighted or patented work not even if we are going to include it in the most simple clip art.

#5 Re: Website Issues and Support » [FEATURE] site guidelines & code of conduct 2b agreed upon and publish » 2019-12-03 14:59:33

It appears the shape of a car can not be trademarked. General Court: car shape found not registrable (decision of 25 November 2015, case T-629/14)

Using the name and model as a description should not be a problem either (IANAL) as you don't claim ownership of it. Trademark law only limits the ways you use it. As FreeSVG don't make cars it's not a problem.

I do not agree. There is a reason why all images with trademarks on Shutterstock (that features 230 million images) are for editorial use only. Even images without visible trademark but with identifiable silhouette of a car are for Editorial use only. Probably the only reason none of these car companies ever asked for removal of these images is that they do not have any direct harm from these clip art. Giving people right to do whatever they want with images that feature parts that are somewhere registered as trademarks or protected by copyright law is tricky although I admit it is very likely it will not be challenged by anyone. … 41105.html

Simple letter/colour/font combinations (such as the Google logo) do not qualify for copyright status. Such simple logos are considered "public domain," meaning that anyone can use them – although the way that people can use a public domain logo would still be limited by trademark law.

I would not like to test this claim in court. Google logo is trademark and to use it you will need permission from Google. To publish it on public domain site and tell users you can use it for whatever you want is just not good idea...

#6 Re: Website Issues and Support » [FEATURE] site guidelines & code of conduct 2b agreed upon and publish » 2019-12-03 14:15:45

liftarn wrote:
boris wrote:

Avoid use of commercial fonts, even converted to outlines they are still trademarked, there are fonts in public domain available.

Trademarks has nothing to do with it (IANAL). Copyright may do, but "Trademark law protects only the name of a typeface, but not the design of the typeface." (The Law on Fonts and Typefaces in Design and Marketing: Frequently Asked Questions (about commercial and non-commercial use))

Thanks for clarifying this.

#7 Re: Website Issues and Support » [FEATURE] site guidelines & code of conduct 2b agreed upon and publish » 2019-12-02 16:59:05

Thanks for some very good points regarding copyright from all of you. Here are some of my observations regarding copyright and rules in general.

Thing is that anything that is trademarked cannot be released in public domain by anyone except the owner of a trademark. For example image of Ford car can be trademarked, the design itself, name of the model etc. The other day I deleted Google logo which happened to be in the database. How people upload these files with public domain license I have no idea.

Derived work should be acceptable only if the original work is in public domain.

Avoid use of commercial fonts, even converted to outlines they are still trademarked, there are fonts in public domain available.

As CyanideCupcake pointed out, there is a problem with describing images and making connections to trademarks when in essence similarities are very vague. If you draw a car, why claim it is Ford Mustang when it can be any sports car and if similarities are really difficult to see.

Regarding publishing rules I would like to quote some excerpts from Google Publisher policy:

"We do not allow content that:

- incites hatred against, promotes discrimination of, or disparages an individual or group on the basis of their race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, age, nationality, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or other characteristic that is associated with systemic discrimination or marginalization.
- harasses, intimidates, or bullies an individual or group of individuals.

- includes graphic sexual text, image, audio, video, or games.
Examples: Sex acts such as genital, anal, and/or oral sex; masturbation; cartoon porn or hentai; graphic nudity

- contains non-consensual sexual themes, whether simulated or real.
Examples: Rape, incest, bestiality, necrophilia, snuff, lolita or teen-themed pornography, underage dating

- may be interpreted as promoting a sexual act in exchange for compensation.
Examples: Prostitution, companionship and escort services, intimate massage, cuddling sites"

These are rules for debate only but in general I do agree with them.

#8 Re: Website Issues and Support » [BUG] sitewide restriction to prevent deletion of images by users » 2019-12-02 16:57:33

Thanks to anyone who deleted trademarked or suspicious images. We just need more communication and it should happen right here. No hard feelings and no offense to anyone. Any help is appreciated.

#9 Re: Website Issues and Support » Buddha kid? » 2019-11-15 08:47:55

liftarn wrote:

Thanks. Are the tags updated too because the related images seem not relevant any more.

Tags changed, thanks.

#10 Re: Website Issues and Support » Buddha kid? » 2019-11-14 18:03:59

liftarn wrote:
boris wrote:

What would be the right description? Something like "Vector image of the Yellow kid, an American comic strip character" or something else. I can change it, let me know.

Something like that, but the "Vector image of" seems a bit unnecessary.


#11 Re: Website Issues and Support » Buddha kid? » 2019-11-13 15:40:45

What would be the right description? Something like "Vector image of the Yellow kid, an American comic strip character" or something else. I can change it, let me know.

#12 Re: Website Issues and Support » [Feature] NSFW tag » 2019-11-08 08:30:42

Removing them from the collection would be the wrong way to go as almost everything can be seen as offensive to someone. I notice that some images are now flagged as they may be offensive to racists.

The problem of giving extremists the ability to remove any image they don't like is that it goes down a very slippery slope.

I agree, we must set clear rules or guidelines what is and what is not offensive. In general I think any image showing open nudity, sexual acts are not child friendly and should be removed. But I also think political activism in form of provocative images and messages in any form should be banned not because I agree or not agree with them but because they may provoke similar images from the other side or give impression that we agree with such images and messages they send. It is difficult to be neutral and take a moral stance that does not fit everyone although all of us have these principles in our heads and live by them. That's why we do not have these rules so far but it is excellent topic for discussion. How to proceed, what to include or exclude? Are publishing rules of tech giants like Google or websites like Wikipedia way to go?

Links for discussion:   Google Publisher Policies … ule-making   Criticism of Wikipedia

#13 Re: Website Issues and Support » Biology question » 2019-11-02 13:16:40

liftarn wrote:

Another biology question. Is really a lemming?

I changed it to bovine. However the original name of the svg is lemming which may explain how the title went wrong. It certainly is not lemming, thanks for locating this image.

#14 Re: Website Issues and Support » Biology question » 2019-10-31 16:08:52

liftarn wrote: says it's a hedgehog ( spiny mammals of the subfamily Erinaceinae), but the description says it's a porcupine (Old World porcupines of family Hystricidae or the New World porcupines of family Erethizontidae).

What is it?

H,i it was me that added this title. The name of svg file is Echidna so I changed the title and description to that name. It looked like a hedgehog to me initially.

#15 Re: News » Which feature do you want most? » 2019-10-07 07:40:22

rob_s wrote:

This is true Boris, but if you play it safe by only posting content to your own timeline, or responding to others, where the purpose is strictly to notify your followers of news relevant to your site, and to resisting the temptation to hashtag or post tweets to other timelines, which is self promotion, then you should be fine. It's ultimately up to yourselves, whether it's worth pursuing, if the followers numbers don't go up, then it's probably not worth having. I agree captcha is a pain, but very effective authentication tool to reducing spam, it might actually be beneficial for the forum registration process to cut down on those fake accounts which I see are being generated. Just ideas buddy, entirely up to yourselves whether they should be considered.

Hi Rob,
sorry if it sounded like a critique of your post, I did not mean to disqualify Twitter idea, just wanted to point to difficulties in using Twitter and their not so fine-tuned spam fighting measures. In some way I can understand them because I can only image the amount of spam and fake accounts they get (even this forum is target of spam on daily basis, although it has a tiny fraction of Twitter's traffic). We created the account and tried to use it and were suddenly stopped and asked to use Captcha plus code that they sent on mobile phone. It took us about 5 minutes to continue the post.  I don't know how often this occurs as I am not regular use of Twitter. Hopefully, not so often.

#16 Re: News » Which feature do you want most? » 2019-10-06 12:26:43

rob_s wrote:

Liking the Polls, but you forgot one, a twitter page. I keep thinking eventually OCAL twitter page will go down and there will be no where else to turn to for updates for the community, purhaps you could create a page where users like me can follow in the event ocal goes down, so we can be kept informed of polls like this and engaged, and hopefully somewhere you can feature image of the month based on likes.

With all respect but Twitter (and Facebook) are terrible. They stopped me in the middle of the message and asked for Captcha plus sms code they never sent. I prefer not to use them for any type of communication as their machine-learning spam fighting is miserably bad in guessing what is spam and what is not. Plus they can shut down anyone's account for no reason at all and without any explanation.

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